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A well-known thikr at Opening the Prayer that Many Scholars have considered weak!

سَعِيدٍ أَنَّ النَّبِىَّ -صلى الله عليه وسلم- كَانَ إِذَا افْتَتَحَ الصَّلاَةَ قَالَ « سُبْحَانَكَ اللَّهُمَّ وَبِحَمْدِكَ تَبَارَكَ اسْمُكَ وَتَعَالَى جَدُّكَ وَلاَ إِلَهَ غَيْرُكَ

Sa’eed (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated that the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to begin his prayer by saying “Glory be to you, O Allah, and all praises are due unto you, and blessed is your name and high is your majesty and none is worthy of worship but you.

Collected by Abu Dawud (775) ,At-Tirmithi (242), An-Nisa’(2/ 132) and others

The scholars who graded this hadeeth as being weak and unauthentic and why;

1.      At-Tirmithi (may Allah have mercy on him) said, “The isnad that leads to Sa’eed has been criticized. Yahya ibn Sa’eed criticized Ali ibn Ali Ar-Rafa’i. And Imam Ahmed said that this hadeeth is week.

2.      Abu Dawud (may Allah have mercy on him) said, “People say the hadeeth narrated from Ali ibn Ali on Hasan is Mursal and a mistake from Jafir.

3.      Ibn Hibban (may Allah have mercy on him) said, Ali ibn Ali  used to make a lot of mistakes in transmitting hadeeth due to the few narrations he had. Then he mentioned this hadeeth.

4.      Ibn Rajab Al-Hanbali (may Allah have mercy on him) said , The hadeeth with the text  that attribute this thikr to the Prophet(peace and blessings be upon him) are weak.

5.      Ibn Khuzaymah (may Allah have mercy on him) said,” The people in Khurasan use this thikr at the opening of the prayer. I don’t know any authentic narration on the Prophet (peace and blessing be upon him) to support this.

6.      Al-Bayhaqqee (may Allah rest him in Jannah) said,” There is another narration on Ibn Masud (may Allah be pleased with him) which is weak. It has also been reported from Aisha and Anas (may Allah be pleased with them), however the most sound narration is the one which attributes this thikr to Umar ibn Khattab (may Allah be pleased with him).”

7.      An-Nawwawee (may Allah have mercy on him) said, “All the different chains of narrations for the thikr Glory be to You…are all weak and unauthentic. The only narration which is saheeh is the one on Umar ibn Khattab (may Allah be pleased with him). And this narration points to the thikr as being his own words.

8.      Ibn Mulaqqin (may Allah have mercy on him) graded this hadeeth as being weak as well.

9.       Shaykh Muqbil (May Allah have mercy on him) graded a narration with these words in the Hakim’s Mustadarak as being weak, due to the breakage in the chain.

Abu Azeez Hasan Ibn Nur (from Dammaj) said, “In summary the narrations which attribute this thikr to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) are all weak, as the earlier senior scholars unanimously agree. And ironically this hadeeth is well-known between the common folk, taught at schools and mentioned in many of the books authored today. And perhaps the only reason it’s so widespread is because it is  short. It must be noted that this hadeeth is weak. We aren’t in need of it. It’s our duty to encourage the Muslims to follow and act by the authentic narrations, which agree with the Prophet’s guidance. He (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “Pray as you see me pray”….

Taken from [ Mukhtasara Em’anal Nathir Lee Taqreeb Al-Masa’il Faqeehee wa Tahqeeq Al-Kabar by Hasan ibn Nur  page 71-72] this book has the forward from Shaykh Muhammad Al-Imam and Shaykh Yahya Al-Hajooree (may Allah preserve them)

·         Ahmed Najmee (may Allah have mercy on him)said” Em’anal Nathir is a beneficial book…”

Translated by: Abu Aaliyah Abdullah ibn Dwight Battle

Doha, Qatar

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abuabdullaah wrote on Feb 23, '09
Assalaamu 'alaikum,
BaarakAllaahu feekum,
Imaam al-Albaani (rahimahullaah) says in Silisilatul Ahaadeeth As-Saheehah that this Hadeeth is SAHEEH.
Allaahu 'Aalam.
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abuaaliyah wrote on Feb 24, '09, edited on Feb 24, '09
wa alaykum as-salaam,
na'am I am aware of that ,as well as his speech in Irwa Al-ghalil. This is why I titled it " ....many of the scholars" ,and not all the scholars. Even shaykh Muhammad Adam viewed it at one time as being weak, but in his explanation for Nisa' he said it was saheeh.Nonetheless, the ulema differ over this hadeeth. Abdul Hadee (may Allah have mercy on him) in his book [" Tanqeehul Tahqeeq fee Ahadeethut Ta'leeq vol 2 " Adwas-Salaf print.]spoke in detail about this hadeeth. refer there if you got this book or Nasbir Raya.


and Allah knows best.
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rasheedgant wrote on Mar 9, '09
As salaamu alaikum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuhu, take a look at saheeh muslim number 399 to see where this dua for the salaah was practiced by Umar ibn Khataab under the chapter of is the basmallah read out loud? Imam An Nawawee brought this narration in his Ath Kaar under the section of the opening dua after takbeer Ihraam.
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abuaaliyah wrote on Mar 9, '09, edited on Mar 10, '09
Refer to Bulugh al-Maram, which is in English. Ibn Hajr said that this hadeeth is Munqati'- Broken chain. Also An-Nawawee graded this narration as being weak . I will post something we can all benefit about this topic from Shaykh Muqbil (may Allah have mercy on him) soon inshallah.
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rasheedgant wrote on Mar 9, '09
Na'am Barak Allahu Feek... I need the benefit as this is (sadly to say) the dua that I am most familiar with.
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abuaaliyah wrote on Mar 12, '09, edited on Mar 13, '09
Shaykh Muqbil (may Allah rest him in Jannah) was asked:
If the early Hufaath grade a hadeeth as weak and a scholar comes behind them with otherwise.

Question # 19. If scholars from the earlier generations grade a particular hadeeth as being weak, then scholars after them grade it as being saheeh, while the earlier scholars mentioned the chains are weak. The later scholar rejects this defect in the hadeeth. He says I have researched the hadeeth and found that it has an isnad that some of the Hufaath weren’t aware of, what do we say about this?

Answer: This is an important and excellent question. May Allah reward you. The earlier scholars view takes precedence in this issue. They were aware of these chains of hadeeth. An example of this issue is when Ibn Hajr [852 H] (may Allah have mercy on him) said the hadeeth for wiping the face after dua with all its narrations combined was hasan. And Imam Ahmed [241H] (may Allah have mercy on him) said the hadeeth “ has no authentic chain and basis” .So if this occurs from Shaykh Al-Albani [1420 H] (may Allah have mercy on him) we take the earlier scholars ruling about the matter and refrain from Shaykh Al-Albani’s ruling.

Books have been written about the status of narrators; such as Al-Kamal by Ibn ‘Adde and Ad-Dua’fa by ‘Uqaylee. However books weren’t written that explain the difference between saheeh and dha’eef. The earlier scholars were exposed to grading hadeeth saheeh, hasan, and dha’eef, however they occupied themselves in explaining the status of narrators and not in the books of ‘illa.

I find tranquility in taking the ruling of the earlier scholars over Shaykh Al-Albani (may Allah have mercy on him). Shaykh Al-Albani didn’t attain the level in hadeeth like Imam Ahmed and Al-Bukhari (may Allah have mercy on them) and their likes. I don’t believe later scholars discovered things in hadeeth that the previous scholars didn’t find. Except in very rare cases.

In summary, when the Hufaath from the earlier generations grade a hadeeth as weak, and they knew the chains of hadeeth better than Shaykh Al-Albani (may rest him in Jannah) we take their ruling. Shakyk Al-Albani (may Allah have mercy on him) was considered a scholar and researcher, not a haafith. In this era Allah gave him insight which others weren’t given. It was a blessing to have had someone in this field of study today, but he didn’t reach the status of Haafith.

Taken from Al-Muqtarah fee Ajwaba baa’d As’ilah Al-Mustalah by Shaykh Muqbil (may Allah rest him in Jannah) Printed by Um Al-Qura in Cairo.

Translated by Abu Aaliyah Abdullah ibn Dwight Battle
Doha, Qatar ©

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petrit85 wrote on Jul 27, '09
Salaamalaikum brother abu Aaliyah,

If this narration is weak, what's a stronger one that we can use for our dua' after the takbeerulihraam

jazakAllahukhayr
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